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Michael Hadac
2003-11-09 22:04:00 UTC
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An Open Letter to my American neighbors

by "Susan"

Like you, I woke up today, got dressed and settled down to a steaming brew
and
the morning newspaper before heading out to work. Unlike you, I read that
dozens of my fellow citizens were arrested for carrying copies of the
Buffalo
News. The newspaper contained information about a trial here that the
powers-that-be did not want us to read. It is that simple.

It is now 11:15 p.m. Minutes ago, I turned on the Buffalo television
station,
hoping to see on my TV what could not reach us through the newspapers. I am
now
looking at a blank screen. We received about 10 seconds of the trial
controversy, and suddenly my screen went blank. A message appeared on the
screen explaining that because of the contravention of a ban, the station
was
prohibiting broadcast of the news. Along with the sign was a high-pitched
whistle that sounded like the air-raid sirens the British used during World
War
II.

As I sit here alone, I realize that my blood is running cold at the sound of
that whistle.

This could never happen here.

Not in Canada.

You must wonder about a country that would deny its own citizens the freedom
to
read. As a Canadian, I have done a lot of hard thinking about it.

I guess the powers have their reasons for the ban. Censorship always has its
reasons, but, believe me, when you are on the receiving end of government
censorship, no reason amounts to a hill of beans - and that is why I am
writing
to you.

It is my hope that you will read this Canadian story and "wake up and smell
the
coffee" - while you still have [something] to read along with it.

I have always loved the United States of America, and I know that you are
now
making critical decisions about the role of government in your lives.

Many years ago, we in Canada were at a crossroads in our decision-making
that
is similar to the one you are at now. I wish our decisions back then had
been
very different. Then maybe I wouldn't be sitting here looking at a blank
screen.

Some two decades ago, Canadians were concerned with how government could
best
help its citizens. We looked around at countries with a comprehensive social
welfare system and envied them their cushions of comfort for everything from
universal medical care to national day care.

We were a country that held individual freedom in high esteem. Surely, we
thought, it was possible to take the best aspects of socialism and weave
them
into the fabric of a free society. After all, this was democratic Canada and
not the Soviet Union.

Over the next 20 years, we developed an extensive social support network at
both the federal and provincial levels of government. The government spent
money on every conceivable program. We spent and spent. Still, no one was
ever
really satisfied.

When you adopt an extensive government agenda, you soon discover that all
the
entrenched programs and layers of bureaucracy become impossible to budge.
Much
of the population works for the government; about one of every four
Canadians
now draws a government paycheck.

People learn to depend on government, and all governments, even those whose
leaders warn against this dependency, learn to love the power that flows
from
it.

As for the threat to individual liberty, newspaper censorship is, frankly,
the
tip of the iceberg. Government intervenes in our lives constantly, and
individual liberties are abrogated in new and ever more imaginative ways
each
day.

Canadians who dare to get a haircut or a car tune-up across the border are
being photographed and prosecuted upon their return to Canada. Why? Because
they have secured these services without having to incur the 7 percent goods
and services tax slapped onto our ever-burgeoning provincial taxes. Even
insurance plans are now taxed.

A black market has sprung up, mainly in liquor and cigarettes, which carry
the
heaviest taxes. Don't think that the taxes will end there, though.

You will find that after a time, your state and federal governments - even
those of a different political stripe - will join forces to make their task
of
tax collection easier.

Our entire education system, up to university level, is governed by a
centralized bureaucracy called the Ministry of Education, which dictates
what
can and cannot be taught in the schools and how it is to be taught
Universities
are mainly government-funded.

I realize that the issue of government-run programs is particularly
important
to you now because of the state of your health-care system. I sympathize
with
you completely. I cannot imagine a world where one could be left bankrupt
because of illness. .

I suggest that you look upon it as you do your police protection: a guard in
place for the physical and mental well- being of your citizens. The real
danger
in socialized medicine is the attitude of entitlement it engenders.

The stories you have heard about us are largely true. It is not uncommon to
pick up a newspaper and read about "The frightening wait for cancer therapy"
here in Ontario, and the situation is no better in the other provinces.
There
is a shortage of the most advanced diagnostic technology. Thousands of the
health cards that ensure access to medical care have been issued
erroneously.

We do wait two hours for an appointment booked weeks in advance. Despite our
world-class doctors, many patients can't get treatment in time because of
overcrowding. When you are faced with a life-and-death medical situation,
you
don't mind paying whatever it costs. Under the government-dominated medical
system, however, you can't even buy your way in - unless, of course, you go
to
the United States.

I am employed in administration at a prominent Ontario university that has
historically enjoyed a high degree of autonomy. Last summer, my president
wrote
a letter to the staff explaining that the government had expressed an
intention
to take a more active role in the management of university affairs. He
described this as an enormous threat to our autonomy as a free-thinking
institution, and in the end the government retreated - for now.

As I sit here tonight, it is simply beyond my comprehension that such a
well-intentioned and beloved country as my own could go so far astray so
quickly. And it is all the more remarkable that it has taken place without
grand conspiracies or intricate plots.

Indeed, most Canadians are as offended by the images of totalitarian
government
as you are. We shared your joy at the fall of the Berlin Wall and the
crumbling
of the Soviet bloc; we value freedom. And yet we have fallen into a trap
where
we are not free.

As with that other well-known road, we traveled this one with the best of
intentions.

To those who would dismiss me as an alarmist, I issue this invitation: Read
our
newspapers, watch our news broadcasts (what is left of them) and see for
yourselves. Prove me wrong. I wish you could.

When you make critical decisions about the role of government in your life,
please think about me, about this letter and about Canada.

Really think about what it could mean when you hear about a government
initiative that sounds too good to be true. Thank God for a free press, even
when you find yourself criticizing the media for broadcasting stories that
you
would rather not hear about. The recent publication ban is not the first
one.
There are others, and their number is growing.

Listen and learn, America. Cup your ear to the wind and hear the
blood-chilling
wail of the siren whistle as it drifts down across your border.

If just one of you reads this letter and pauses, even for a moment, to think
about what unchecked government can do, then it has been worth the writing.

I have faith in you, America. Your road is tough and not perfect. Nothing
is.
Your road will keep leading you to freedom - the freedom to read and think
and
be exactly who and what you are - if you only let it. Treasure that freedom,
love it and resolve never, ever to let it go.
_____
Broadway
2003-11-11 04:56:30 UTC
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Post by Michael Hadac
An Open Letter to my American neighbors
by "Susan"
"Susan", therapy would be a better bet.
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dingblade
2003-11-18 19:12:05 UTC
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at least when something is censored here you KNOW it's censored, instead of
having to deal with CNN and other us networks passing off black government
propaganda as fact.

you think line ups to get FREE health care are bad? it's called triage you
moron. kicks the snot out of having to take out a mortgage on your kidney
operation.

you think america is free because it says so in their national anthem?
america is one of the most prudish, conservative, tight-assed cultures on
the planet. you're free to do what you want as long as you're white,
heterosexual, christian and you have money.. if this doesn't describe you,
then you're free to be persecuted, tortured, fined, jailed, or EXECUTED

i'll take the high-pitched whistle and a buffalo newspaper any day of the
f**king week.
Post by Broadway
Post by Michael Hadac
An Open Letter to my American neighbors
by "Susan"
"Susan", therapy would be a better bet.
_________________________________________________
Bradly Wiebe
2003-11-20 05:59:43 UTC
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Post by dingblade
at least when something is censored here you KNOW it's censored, instead of
having to deal with CNN and other us networks passing off black government
propaganda as fact.
We also have to deal with censorship in Canada. The never ending attempt by
the federal liberal government to install an illegal gag order on private
political advertising during election times is just one example. Thankfully we
have a court system that strikes it down every time they attempt it. However,
it seems that censorship in the US is more frequent and more pronounced.
Post by dingblade
you think line ups to get FREE health care are bad? it's called triage you
moron. kicks the snot out of having to take out a mortgage on your kidney
operation.
Health care in Canada is not free. We pay handsomely for it through taxation.
That being said, I would still prefer the social system in Canada. It's
basically like paying for health insurance, but instead of insuring through a
private company, the Canadian insurer is the federal government. Nobody on
either side of the border has a problem paying insurance for their vehicles or
homes, but when medical care comes up, americans run away screaming. The
american system is a system based on capitalism, which is basically the basis
of the entire nation. Milk them for everything you can, which is why we see
such an exodus of qualified medical personell to the US from Canada. The
promise for more money is a very tempting thing. Yes, Canadians must wait
longer for many medical treatments in Canada, but the Canadian system is
designed such that EVERYONE has access to the same medical care without bias,
no matter what the background or the financial situation. When lives are at
stake, that is the system that should be strived for (obviously just an
opinion). The americans are gradually moving toward such a system, though they
strongly refuse to admit it. Medicaid is a socialized program used in the US
that pays for medical assistance for those in the US that cannot afford it. If
that is not a social system, what is? We have to realize that both systems
work, and both systems have good points and bad points, but when push comes to
shove, I'd take the Canadian system without a second thought.
Post by dingblade
you think america is free because it says so in their national anthem?
america is one of the most prudish, conservative, tight-assed cultures on
the planet. you're free to do what you want as long as you're white,
heterosexual, christian and you have money.. if this doesn't describe you,
then you're free to be persecuted, tortured, fined, jailed, or EXECUTED
i'll take the high-pitched whistle and a buffalo newspaper any day of the
f**king week.
Post by Broadway
Post by Michael Hadac
An Open Letter to my American neighbors
by "Susan"
"Susan", therapy would be a better bet.
_________________________________________________
DE781
2003-11-23 22:00:41 UTC
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Post by Bradly Wiebe
Post by dingblade
at least when something is censored here you KNOW it's censored, instead of
having to deal with CNN and other us networks passing off black government
propaganda as fact.
We also have to deal with censorship in Canada. The never ending attempt by
the federal liberal government to install an illegal gag order on private
political advertising during election times is just one example.
"Gag order"? It seems more like fairness. In America political
campaigns are corrupt and overrun by private sponsors and their
agendas. Cananda may indeed be RIGHT to have stricter laws in certain
areas. Instead of complaining about it, if you find Canada too
socialist, why not just move to America? We in the Western World
should at least be grateful we have THAT option! Can the people of
the Third World and the terrorist countries say the same? All
everyone over here ever does is complains about OURSELVES; why not
think of the people who REALLY aren't free, in ANY sense of the word?

Thankfully we
Post by Bradly Wiebe
have a court system that strikes it down every time they attempt it. However,
it seems that censorship in the US is more frequent and more pronounced.
Post by dingblade
you think line ups to get FREE health care are bad? it's called triage you
moron. kicks the snot out of having to take out a mortgage on your kidney
operation.
Health care in Canada is not free. We pay handsomely for it through taxation.
That being said, I would still prefer the social system in Canada. It's
basically like paying for health insurance, but instead of insuring through a
private company, the Canadian insurer is the federal government. Nobody on
either side of the border has a problem paying insurance for their vehicles or
homes, but when medical care comes up, americans run away screaming.
Well, insurance is asinine, especially on cars. They should just do a
government-based program for cars too, so that everyone pays a fair
amount.

The
Post by Bradly Wiebe
american system is a system based on capitalism, which is basically the basis
of the entire nation. Milk them for everything you can, which is why we see
such an exodus of qualified medical personell to the US from Canada. The
promise for more money is a very tempting thing. Yes, Canadians must wait
longer for many medical treatments in Canada, but the Canadian system is
designed such that EVERYONE has access to the same medical care without bias,
no matter what the background or the financial situation. When lives are at
stake, that is the system that should be strived for (obviously just an
opinion).
Yep, I agree. Your socialism is, in general, better.

The americans are gradually moving toward such a system, though they
Post by Bradly Wiebe
strongly refuse to admit it. Medicaid is a socialized program used in the US
that pays for medical assistance for those in the US that cannot afford it.
Exactly. Which is why it annoys me to hell when foreigners try to
claim that we don't have free health care here! WE DO!

If
Post by Bradly Wiebe
that is not a social system, what is? We have to realize that both systems
work, and both systems have good points and bad points, but when push comes to
shove, I'd take the Canadian system without a second thought.
I like how America is moving towards the Canadian system, gradually
and over time. Personally, I'd never want to live anywhere besides
America. I've said it here before and I'll say it again, but I think
many other countries (including the "Western" ones) have issues with
racism, prejudice, stereotyping, and xenophobia. The ignorance and
cruelty I've seen and heard from foreigners about and towards
Americans would NEVER be excused in this country.
Post by Bradly Wiebe
Post by dingblade
you think america is free because it says so in their national anthem?
america is one of the most prudish, conservative, tight-assed cultures on
the planet. you're free to do what you want as long as you're white,
heterosexual, christian and you have money.. if this doesn't describe you,
then you're free to be persecuted, tortured, fined, jailed, or EXECUTED
i'll take the high-pitched whistle and a buffalo newspaper any day of the
f**king week.
Post by Broadway
Post by Michael Hadac
An Open Letter to my American neighbors
by "Susan"
"Susan", therapy would be a better bet.
_________________________________________________
Bradly Wiebe
2003-12-04 06:26:46 UTC
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Post by DE781
Post by Bradly Wiebe
Post by dingblade
at least when something is censored here you KNOW it's censored, instead of
having to deal with CNN and other us networks passing off black government
propaganda as fact.
We also have to deal with censorship in Canada. The never ending attempt by
the federal liberal government to install an illegal gag order on private
political advertising during election times is just one example.
"Gag order"? It seems more like fairness. In America political
campaigns are corrupt and overrun by private sponsors and their
agendas. Cananda may indeed be RIGHT to have stricter laws in certain
areas. Instead of complaining about it, if you find Canada too
socialist, why not just move to America? We in the Western World
should at least be grateful we have THAT option! Can the people of
the Third World and the terrorist countries say the same? All
everyone over here ever does is complains about OURSELVES; why not
think of the people who REALLY aren't free, in ANY sense of the word?
If I want to start an advertising campaign to illustrate how I feel the federal government ignores
funding to things like military during election times I should have the right to do so. That is what
the liberals are attempting to stop. I might add that the court system in Canada (including the supreme
court) all have agreed with me and have found the liberal government in the wrong every time they have
attempted to enact the gag order.
Post by DE781
Thankfully we
Post by Bradly Wiebe
have a court system that strikes it down every time they attempt it. However,
it seems that censorship in the US is more frequent and more pronounced.
Post by dingblade
you think line ups to get FREE health care are bad? it's called triage you
moron. kicks the snot out of having to take out a mortgage on your kidney
operation.
Health care in Canada is not free. We pay handsomely for it through taxation.
That being said, I would still prefer the social system in Canada. It's
basically like paying for health insurance, but instead of insuring through a
private company, the Canadian insurer is the federal government. Nobody on
either side of the border has a problem paying insurance for their vehicles or
homes, but when medical care comes up, americans run away screaming.
Well, insurance is asinine, especially on cars. They should just do a
government-based program for cars too, so that everyone pays a fair
amount.
In a social system there is no competition so the possibility for gouging the consumer is still
there. In provinces like B.C. where there is a public social system the insurance is indeed less
expensive for younger drivers, but the older drivers and those with perfect records end up paying for
it. Is faulting those with good records the answer? I'm not saying a private based system is better,
nor is a public system better, but neither seems to be working as good as it should.
Post by DE781
The
Post by Bradly Wiebe
american system is a system based on capitalism, which is basically the basis
of the entire nation. Milk them for everything you can, which is why we see
such an exodus of qualified medical personell to the US from Canada. The
promise for more money is a very tempting thing. Yes, Canadians must wait
longer for many medical treatments in Canada, but the Canadian system is
designed such that EVERYONE has access to the same medical care without bias,
no matter what the background or the financial situation. When lives are at
stake, that is the system that should be strived for (obviously just an
opinion).
Yep, I agree. Your socialism is, in general, better.
The americans are gradually moving toward such a system, though they
Post by Bradly Wiebe
strongly refuse to admit it. Medicaid is a socialized program used in the US
that pays for medical assistance for those in the US that cannot afford it.
Exactly. Which is why it annoys me to hell when foreigners try to
claim that we don't have free health care here! WE DO!
Yes, and believe me, I am just as annoyed at my country being labelled as nothing but a bunch of
socialists. Both countries are more alike than different.
Post by DE781
If
Post by Bradly Wiebe
that is not a social system, what is? We have to realize that both systems
work, and both systems have good points and bad points, but when push comes to
shove, I'd take the Canadian system without a second thought.
I like how America is moving towards the Canadian system, gradually
and over time. Personally, I'd never want to live anywhere besides
America. I've said it here before and I'll say it again, but I think
many other countries (including the "Western" ones) have issues with
racism, prejudice, stereotyping, and xenophobia. The ignorance and
cruelty I've seen and heard from foreigners about and towards
Americans would NEVER be excused in this country.
Yes it would. I was in Florida a few years ago when some Floridians were picking out cars rented out
to Canadians and murdering them. I also knew of a Canadian that was beaten to death in California at a
campsite just for saying he was Canadian. Racism and stereotyping in Canada is no more pronounced than
it is in the U.S. (again, only an opinion, but an opinion derived by personal experiences)

You are right that Americans are treated more poorly than they should be. Sometimes the anger directed
towards americans would be better directed toward the US government, and more often than not the anger
towards americans is unfounded.
Post by DE781
Post by Bradly Wiebe
Post by dingblade
you think america is free because it says so in their national anthem?
america is one of the most prudish, conservative, tight-assed cultures on
the planet. you're free to do what you want as long as you're white,
heterosexual, christian and you have money.. if this doesn't describe you,
then you're free to be persecuted, tortured, fined, jailed, or EXECUTED
i'll take the high-pitched whistle and a buffalo newspaper any day of the
f**king week.
Post by Broadway
Post by Michael Hadac
An Open Letter to my American neighbors
by "Susan"
"Susan", therapy would be a better bet.
_________________________________________________
DE781
2003-11-23 21:52:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by dingblade
at least when something is censored here you KNOW it's censored, instead of
having to deal with CNN and other us networks passing off black government
propaganda as fact.
you think line ups to get FREE health care are bad? it's called triage you
moron. kicks the snot out of having to take out a mortgage on your kidney
operation.
you think america is free because it says so in their national anthem?
america is one of the most prudish, conservative, tight-assed cultures on
the planet. you're free to do what you want as long as you're white,
heterosexual, christian and you have money..
What? If anything, the whites are allowed less liberty here in
America than other minority races. Ditto for Christinans, when
compared to Jews.

if this doesn't describe you,
Post by dingblade
then you're free to be persecuted, tortured, fined, jailed, or EXECUTED
Well, anyone who breaks the law is.
Post by dingblade
i'll take the high-pitched whistle and a buffalo newspaper any day of the
f**king week.
Even though the Buffalo newspaper is MADE IN AMERICA?
Post by dingblade
Post by Broadway
Post by Michael Hadac
An Open Letter to my American neighbors
by "Susan"
"Susan", therapy would be a better bet.
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