Post by Webzpider(snip)
Post by JamesWebzpider can't be so ignorant that he isn't aware of the close relationship
between Sweden and the Nazis at the beginning of WW2.
For example, he
conveniently neglected to tell you about how Sweden allowed Germany
transit
Post by Jamesduring the invasion of Norway. Strict neutrality? That's bullshit. There
were many in Sweden who were strongly sympathetic to the Nazis,
antisemetism, and their theories of a super Nordic race. Many others
opposed
Post by Jamesthe view and helped the Norwegians. But the general bias in their
neutrality
Post by Jamesdid not swing from pro-Nazi to anti-Nazi until it became clear that the
Germans were losing the war.
What "close relationship"? We were in danger to be invaded by the
Germans in 1940, our government were forced to balance on a sharp
edge to keep us out of the war.
They were forced to allow hospital trains and trains with unarmed
soldiers on leave between Norway and Finland.
At the time the Swedish forces were in a bad shape so diplomacy was
the best weapon at the time.
No one except the Germans would have gained anything if they had
invaded us. Later on our forces had gained a lot of strengh so the
Germans would have to think twice before trying to invade.
Your "danger" of invasion is a product of your personal imagination. There
are no records anywhere of a German plan for invading Sweden. Sweden was too
useful to the Nazis as a "neutral" country. All of that iron ore was
critical to the Germans - and made Sweden a lot of money. They had a very
comfortable war, while they Norwegians and Danes chose to resist the
Germans, and suffered greatly. Many Norwegians and Danes resent the role
Sweden played, even today. Ask them.
Post by WebzpiderDuring the war Sweden was a safe haven for hundreds of thousands
refugees from all the Scandinavia and the Baltic states.
Should Germany had invaded, the Jews (domestic and refugees) would
have been fuel in Germany's crematories.
There were many individual Swedes who were concerned about the plight of the
Jews, and of the Norwegians and Danes. But the government was more
interested in continuing a profitable relationship with the Nazis.
Post by WebzpiderThe southern parts of Sweden was littered with crashed allied airplanes
escaping from bomb raids in Germany. Their crews were transported
back to England on a regular basis,instead of being put in a detention
camp for the rest of the war (also a violation of the neutrality rules).
As I said, once Sweden realized which way the wind was blowing, their
neutrality position took a pronounced pro-Allie tilt,
Post by WebzpiderDuring the war you went to bed with Stalin, the butcher of Poland,
Finland and the Baltic states.
Yes, we did. All to defeat the Nazis.
Post by WebzpiderIn Yankland you have the death penalty, you're executing juveniles,
retards and innocents, Nazi salutes and icons are allowed in the
streets.
The death penalty isn't a sign of Facsism. Many politically incorrect
behaviors are permitted here. It is part of our tradition that
nonconformists have rights, too. My point is that attempts to repress
unpopular political views IS a sign of a Facsist state. The same laws that
ban Nazi symbols today can (and probably will) be extended to other
"unacceptable" political behaviors tomorrow.
The fact that your government makes a cosmetic gesture by outlawing the
external trappings of your proto-Nazis hasn't discouraged the growth of a
Facsist movement in Sweden. Just walk the streets of Stockholm, and
skinheads are commonly seen. Perhaps the solution is to pass laws about
haircuts.
Post by WebzpiderYou're suppressing the native Americans without compensating
them for their losses,
Come around and see how Native Americans are being suppressed today. Check
out the reservations, that are now flooded with tourists, leaving piles of
money behind. They are not suppressed, and are being richly compensated.
you're fucking the UN
The UN was all fucked up long ago. We are dealing with reality. Just as we
dealt with the realities of Nazism and Stalinism. It is entirely
understandable that a political tradition that found it useful to cozy up to
Adolf Hitler, now want to ignore the Hitlers of the present.
The bottom line is that your reference to a Nazi web site in the US as a
"great sample of US Liberty and Freedom" is hypocritical, and stupid. There
are web sites equally offensive posted in Sweden. So, by your measure,
Sweden also has indications of liberty and freedom. I guess you probably
object to Swedes having these liberties, too. Perhaps a good beating by left
wing brownshirts is needed.
James