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We need a new name for america
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Webzpider
2003-09-11 21:02:47 UTC
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This is no longer the country founded by franklin and jefferson and
washington. Bush has turned it into a nation of murder and torture
and the biggest terrorist nation in history. Any ideas? I was
thinking maybe Hilteria.
How about Israel?
Why not Moronia ?
Paul Revere
2003-09-12 01:42:45 UTC
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 21:02:47 GMT, "Webzpider"
Post by Webzpider
This is no longer the country founded by franklin and jefferson and
washington. Bush has turned it into a nation of murder and torture
and the biggest terrorist nation in history. Any ideas? I was
thinking maybe Hilteria.
How about Israel?
Why not Moronia ?
How about, "The only nation willing to fight tyrrany"? (besides UK)

you ninny.
Mort
2003-09-12 09:45:06 UTC
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Post by Paul Revere
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 21:02:47 GMT, "Webzpider"
Post by Webzpider
How about Israel?
Why not Moronia ?
How about, "The only nation willing to fight tyrrany"? (besides UK)
Hmm the list of tyrants supported by America is a helluva lot longer than
the list of ones removed by America.
I could type out a list but I don't have all day.
--
Mort
'How am I skydiving?'
Dial 1-800-GET-A-LIFE
Instructor
2003-09-12 12:10:55 UTC
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Post by Paul Revere
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 21:02:47 GMT, "Webzpider"
Post by Webzpider
This is no longer the country founded by franklin and jefferson and
washington. Bush has turned it into a nation of murder and torture
and the biggest terrorist nation in history. Any ideas? I was
thinking maybe Hilteria.
How about Israel?
Why not Moronia ?
How about, "The only nation willing to fight tyrrany"? (besides UK)
you ninny.
That's a joke. The USA has put more Tyrants in to power than any other
nation, and currently supports the worlds biggest tyranny Israel to the tune
of Billions of Dollars a year.

Any terrorist threat the US now faces is a by-product/reaction to its past
actions. American Troops to day Killed 11 Iraqi policemen who were just
doing their jobs, that's how America makes enemies. Sad thing is Americans
just don't understand it.

Who supported the IRA when they were bombing London? Americans and your
Government did nothing to stop the flow of money.

Florida is the home to Terrorist who regularly raid Cuba your Government
does nothing to stop them, This is called Hypocrisy.

You don't fight Tyranny you create it. The list is endless. FFS the CIA have
even supported Osama Bin Laden and Al Queda in the past, because it suited
them aims. They were terrorists them as well. They financed the Taliban
also. You need to get some objectivity and stop watching FOX/FAUX News.
JerryMouse
2003-09-12 21:40:50 UTC
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Post by Instructor
That's a joke. The USA has put more Tyrants in to power than any other
nation, and currently supports the worlds biggest tyranny Israel to
the tune of Billions of Dollars a year.
Maybe, but their OUR tyrants.
Post by Instructor
Any terrorist threat the US now faces is a by-product/reaction to its
past actions. American Troops to day Killed 11 Iraqi policemen who
were just doing their jobs, that's how America makes enemies. Sad
thing is Americans just don't understand it.
We understand it; we just don't care if we make enemies.
Post by Instructor
Florida is the home to Terrorist who regularly raid Cuba your
Government does nothing to stop them, This is called Hypocrisy.
There's nothing wrong with hypocrisy. I seriously doubt anybody from Florida
"raids" Cuba. Wish they did, though.
Post by Instructor
You don't fight Tyranny you create it. The list is endless. FFS the
CIA have even supported Osama Bin Laden and Al Queda in the past,
because it suited them aims. They were terrorists them as well. They
financed the Taliban also. You need to get some objectivity and stop
watching FOX/FAUX News.
The difference between then and now is this: once they were OUR tyrants, now
they're not. You're either a good tyrant or a dead tyrant.
Paul Revere
2003-09-13 03:20:25 UTC
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Post by Instructor
Post by Paul Revere
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 21:02:47 GMT, "Webzpider"
Post by Webzpider
This is no longer the country founded by franklin and jefferson and
washington. Bush has turned it into a nation of murder and torture
and the biggest terrorist nation in history. Any ideas? I was
thinking maybe Hilteria.
How about Israel?
Why not Moronia ?
How about, "The only nation willing to fight tyrrany"? (besides UK)
you ninny.
That's a joke. The USA has put more Tyrants in to power than any other
nation, and currently supports the worlds biggest tyranny Israel to the tune
of Billions of Dollars a year.
debatable. remember the soviet union?

israel is a democracy , 1/6 of whom are non jews.
Post by Instructor
Any terrorist threat the US now faces is a by-product/reaction to its past
actions. American Troops to day Killed 11 Iraqi policemen who were just
doing their jobs, that's how America makes enemies. Sad thing is Americans
just don't understand it.
the deaths today of those iraqis is tragic, and i wish it never
happened. however, it apears to have been an accident and is
definitely not typical of the relations with the iraqi police.
Post by Instructor
Who supported the IRA when they were bombing London? Americans and your
Government did nothing to stop the flow of money.
the IRA should never be supported , i agree. always have. but our
gov't did not support the IRA.
Post by Instructor
Florida is the home to Terrorist who regularly raid Cuba your Government
does nothing to stop them, This is called Hypocrisy.
not lately. surely you're not alluding to bay of pigs??
Post by Instructor
You don't fight Tyranny you create it. The list is endless. FFS the CIA have
even supported Osama Bin Laden and Al Queda in the past, because it suited
them aims. They were terrorists them as well. They financed the Taliban
also. You need to get some objectivity and stop watching FOX/FAUX News.
we have a sordid ast, no doubt. we supported not osama bin laden, but
afghanis against the invading soviets. some called that a reasonable
policy, if you understand the cold war that is.


---
San Francisco Paul Revere
Bradly Wiebe
2003-09-13 03:41:33 UTC
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Post by Paul Revere
Post by Instructor
Post by Paul Revere
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 21:02:47 GMT, "Webzpider"
Post by Webzpider
This is no longer the country founded by franklin and jefferson and
washington. Bush has turned it into a nation of murder and torture
and the biggest terrorist nation in history. Any ideas? I was
thinking maybe Hilteria.
How about Israel?
Why not Moronia ?
How about, "The only nation willing to fight tyrrany"? (besides UK)
you ninny.
That's a joke. The USA has put more Tyrants in to power than any other
nation, and currently supports the worlds biggest tyranny Israel to the tune
of Billions of Dollars a year.
debatable. remember the soviet union?
israel is a democracy , 1/6 of whom are non jews.
Post by Instructor
Any terrorist threat the US now faces is a by-product/reaction to its past
actions. American Troops to day Killed 11 Iraqi policemen who were just
doing their jobs, that's how America makes enemies. Sad thing is Americans
just don't understand it.
the deaths today of those iraqis is tragic, and i wish it never
happened. however, it apears to have been an accident and is
definitely not typical of the relations with the iraqi police.
American troops have had a lot of "accidents"
Post by Paul Revere
Post by Instructor
Who supported the IRA when they were bombing London? Americans and your
Government did nothing to stop the flow of money.
the IRA should never be supported , i agree. always have. but our
gov't did not support the IRA.
Post by Instructor
Florida is the home to Terrorist who regularly raid Cuba your Government
does nothing to stop them, This is called Hypocrisy.
not lately. surely you're not alluding to bay of pigs??
Post by Instructor
You don't fight Tyranny you create it. The list is endless. FFS the CIA have
even supported Osama Bin Laden and Al Queda in the past, because it suited
them aims. They were terrorists them as well. They financed the Taliban
also. You need to get some objectivity and stop watching FOX/FAUX News.
we have a sordid ast, no doubt. we supported not osama bin laden, but
afghanis against the invading soviets. some called that a reasonable
policy, if you understand the cold war that is.
---
San Francisco Paul Revere
Paul Revere
2003-09-13 04:20:30 UTC
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Post by Bradly Wiebe
Post by Paul Revere
Post by Instructor
Post by Paul Revere
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 21:02:47 GMT, "Webzpider"
Post by Webzpider
This is no longer the country founded by franklin and jefferson and
washington. Bush has turned it into a nation of murder and torture
and the biggest terrorist nation in history. Any ideas? I was
thinking maybe Hilteria.
How about Israel?
Why not Moronia ?
How about, "The only nation willing to fight tyrrany"? (besides UK)
you ninny.
That's a joke. The USA has put more Tyrants in to power than any other
nation, and currently supports the worlds biggest tyranny Israel to the tune
of Billions of Dollars a year.
debatable. remember the soviet union?
israel is a democracy , 1/6 of whom are non jews.
Post by Instructor
Any terrorist threat the US now faces is a by-product/reaction to its past
actions. American Troops to day Killed 11 Iraqi policemen who were just
doing their jobs, that's how America makes enemies. Sad thing is Americans
just don't understand it.
the deaths today of those iraqis is tragic, and i wish it never
happened. however, it apears to have been an accident and is
definitely not typical of the relations with the iraqi police.
American troops have had a lot of "accidents"
this is true bradly, but of course you in fact don't hear reported on
the news the hundreds of missions with iraqi police which were
successful. or have you?

it is certainy sexier for Yahoo, for example, to report daily ONLY on
the accidents, the casualties, and the mishaps (not that they have a
bias).

after all, who cares of anything else?
Post by Bradly Wiebe
Post by Paul Revere
Post by Instructor
Who supported the IRA when they were bombing London? Americans and your
Government did nothing to stop the flow of money.
the IRA should never be supported , i agree. always have. but our
gov't did not support the IRA.
Post by Instructor
Florida is the home to Terrorist who regularly raid Cuba your Government
does nothing to stop them, This is called Hypocrisy.
not lately. surely you're not alluding to bay of pigs??
Post by Instructor
You don't fight Tyranny you create it. The list is endless. FFS the CIA have
even supported Osama Bin Laden and Al Queda in the past, because it suited
them aims. They were terrorists them as well. They financed the Taliban
also. You need to get some objectivity and stop watching FOX/FAUX News.
we have a sordid ast, no doubt. we supported not osama bin laden, but
afghanis against the invading soviets. some called that a reasonable
policy, if you understand the cold war that is.
---
San Francisco Paul Revere
---
San Francisco Paul Revere
Chris Fleitman
2003-09-13 10:01:03 UTC
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Post by Bradly Wiebe
Post by Paul Revere
Post by Instructor
Post by Paul Revere
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 21:02:47 GMT, "Webzpider"
Post by Webzpider
This is no longer the country founded by franklin and jefferson and
washington. Bush has turned it into a nation of murder and torture
and the biggest terrorist nation in history. Any ideas? I was
thinking maybe Hilteria.
How about Israel?
Why not Moronia ?
How about, "The only nation willing to fight tyrrany"? (besides UK)
you ninny.
That's a joke. The USA has put more Tyrants in to power than any other
nation, and currently supports the worlds biggest tyranny Israel to the tune
of Billions of Dollars a year.
debatable. remember the soviet union?
israel is a democracy , 1/6 of whom are non jews.
Post by Instructor
Any terrorist threat the US now faces is a by-product/reaction to its past
actions. American Troops to day Killed 11 Iraqi policemen who were just
doing their jobs, that's how America makes enemies. Sad thing is Americans
just don't understand it.
the deaths today of those iraqis is tragic, and i wish it never
happened. however, it apears to have been an accident and is
definitely not typical of the relations with the iraqi police.
American troops have had a lot of "accidents"
That's because we have the largest troop count there. 125,000 to be
exact. How many troops are you provided to the great cause of Iraqi
liberation?
--
Chris Fleitman.

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Muhammad, an Iraqi engineer.
The Lone Weasel
2003-09-13 05:42:24 UTC
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:10:55 GMT, "Instructor"
Post by Paul Revere
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 21:02:47 GMT, "Webzpider"
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Post by Paul Revere
This is no longer the country founded by franklin
and jefferson and washington. Bush has turned it
into a nation of murder and torture and the biggest
terrorist nation in history. Any ideas? I was
thinking maybe Hilteria.
How about Israel?
Why not Moronia ?
How about, "The only nation willing to fight tyrrany"?
(besides UK)
you ninny.
Uma.
That's a joke. The USA has put more Tyrants in to power
than any other nation, and currently supports the worlds
biggest tyranny Israel to the tune of Billions of Dollars a
year.
debatable. remember the soviet union?
israel is a democracy , 1/6 of whom are non jews.
Any terrorist threat the US now faces is a
by-product/reaction to its past actions. American Troops to
day Killed 11 Iraqi policemen who were just doing their
jobs, that's how America makes enemies. Sad thing is
Americans just don't understand it.
the deaths today of those iraqis is tragic, and i wish it
never happened. however, it apears to have been an accident
and is definitely not typical of the relations with the
iraqi police.
Then the deaths aren't tragic at all, they're just stupid.
Who supported the IRA when they were bombing London?
Americans and your Government did nothing to stop the flow
of money.
the IRA should never be supported , i agree. always have.
but our gov't did not support the IRA.
Why don't we invade Ireland and kill their terrorists?
They're white.

Why don't we invade North Korea? Because they have nukes.

Why don't we invade Iran? Just look what's happening in
Iraq! We don't need two idiotic desert guerrilla wars in
neighboring countries where one's already controlled by
religious fundamentalists and Iraq soon will be.

Just imagine the mischief they'll create when Iraq & Iran are
both run by Sheites. And Pakistan has nukes right next door.

Would you vote for the idiots who got us in this illegal
invasion desert guerrilla tag-team terrorist horseshit?

_________________


"There is one simple way for the United States to decrease
very significantly the amount of terror in the world, and
that is to just stop supporting and participating in it."

- Noam Chomsky
--
Yours truly,

The Lone Weasel
Paul Revere
2003-09-16 03:03:02 UTC
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Post by The Lone Weasel
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:10:55 GMT, "Instructor"
Post by Paul Revere
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 21:02:47 GMT, "Webzpider"
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Post by Paul Revere
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Post by Paul Revere
This is no longer the country founded by franklin
and jefferson and washington. Bush has turned it
into a nation of murder and torture and the biggest
terrorist nation in history. Any ideas? I was
thinking maybe Hilteria.
How about Israel?
Why not Moronia ?
How about, "The only nation willing to fight tyrrany"?
(besides UK)
you ninny.
Uma.
That's a joke. The USA has put more Tyrants in to power
than any other nation, and currently supports the worlds
biggest tyranny Israel to the tune of Billions of Dollars a
year.
debatable. remember the soviet union?
israel is a democracy , 1/6 of whom are non jews.
Any terrorist threat the US now faces is a
by-product/reaction to its past actions. American Troops to
day Killed 11 Iraqi policemen who were just doing their
jobs, that's how America makes enemies. Sad thing is
Americans just don't understand it.
the deaths today of those iraqis is tragic, and i wish it
never happened. however, it apears to have been an accident
and is definitely not typical of the relations with the
iraqi police.
Then the deaths aren't tragic at all, they're just stupid.
Who supported the IRA when they were bombing London?
Americans and your Government did nothing to stop the flow
of money.
the IRA should never be supported , i agree. always have.
but our gov't did not support the IRA.
Why don't we invade Ireland and kill their terrorists?
because they have not orchestrated terror actions or harbored WMD
against the USA.
Post by The Lone Weasel
They're white.
Why don't we invade North Korea? Because they have nukes.
b/c of the DMZ. b/c for 50 years+ we have completely isolated them
with s.korea right up its ass, & with 35,000+ US troops waving 'hi'
across the way.
Post by The Lone Weasel
Why don't we invade Iran? Just look what's happening in
enough of this idiocy.
Post by The Lone Weasel
Iraq! We don't need two idiotic desert guerrilla wars in
neighboring countries where one's already controlled by
religious fundamentalists and Iraq soon will be.
Just imagine the mischief they'll create when Iraq & Iran are
both run by Sheites. And Pakistan has nukes right next door.
they have for some time now.
Post by The Lone Weasel
Would you vote for the idiots who got us in this illegal
invasion desert guerrilla tag-team terrorist horseshit?
yup.
Post by The Lone Weasel
"There is one simple way for the United States to decrease
very significantly the amount of terror in the world, and
that is to just stop supporting and participating in it."
- Noam Chomsky
oh not him. no wonder you are so misled.


---
San Francisco Paul Revere
Gay John
2003-09-16 14:41:20 UTC
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Post by Paul Revere
Post by The Lone Weasel
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:10:55 GMT, "Instructor"
Post by Paul Revere
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 21:02:47 GMT, "Webzpider"
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Post by Paul Revere
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Post by Paul Revere
This is no longer the country founded by franklin
and jefferson and washington. Bush has turned it
into a nation of murder and torture and the biggest
terrorist nation in history. Any ideas? I was
thinking maybe Hilteria.
How about Israel?
Why not Moronia ?
How about, "The only nation willing to fight tyrrany"?
(besides UK)
you ninny.
Uma.
That's a joke. The USA has put more Tyrants in to power
than any other nation, and currently supports the worlds
biggest tyranny Israel to the tune of Billions of Dollars a
year.
debatable. remember the soviet union?
israel is a democracy , 1/6 of whom are non jews.
Any terrorist threat the US now faces is a
by-product/reaction to its past actions. American Troops to
day Killed 11 Iraqi policemen who were just doing their
jobs, that's how America makes enemies. Sad thing is
Americans just don't understand it.
the deaths today of those iraqis is tragic, and i wish it
never happened. however, it apears to have been an accident
and is definitely not typical of the relations with the
iraqi police.
Then the deaths aren't tragic at all, they're just stupid.
Who supported the IRA when they were bombing London?
Americans and your Government did nothing to stop the flow
of money.
the IRA should never be supported , i agree. always have.
but our gov't did not support the IRA.
Why don't we invade Ireland and kill their terrorists?
because they have not orchestrated terror actions or harbored WMD
against the USA.
Same as Iraq?



You have no shame when it comes to hypocrisy do you!



Actually the IRA were friends of Gadaffy and the PLO and helped train many
enemies of the USA.
Post by Paul Revere
Post by The Lone Weasel
They're white.
Why don't we invade North Korea? Because they have nukes.
b/c of the DMZ. b/c for 50 years+ we have completely isolated them
with s.korea right up its ass, & with 35,000+ US troops waving 'hi'
across the way.
Post by The Lone Weasel
Why don't we invade Iran? Just look what's happening in
enough of this idiocy.
Post by The Lone Weasel
Iraq! We don't need two idiotic desert guerrilla wars in
neighboring countries where one's already controlled by
religious fundamentalists and Iraq soon will be.
Just imagine the mischief they'll create when Iraq & Iran are
both run by Sheites. And Pakistan has nukes right next door.
they have for some time now.
Post by The Lone Weasel
Would you vote for the idiots who got us in this illegal
invasion desert guerrilla tag-team terrorist horseshit?
yup.
Post by The Lone Weasel
"There is one simple way for the United States to decrease
very significantly the amount of terror in the world, and
that is to just stop supporting and participating in it."
- Noam Chomsky
oh not him. no wonder you are so misled.
---
San Francisco Paul Revere
PMD
2003-09-16 23:56:35 UTC
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How about Mongolia, ............darn it exists!

PMD
Post by Paul Revere
Post by The Lone Weasel
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 12:10:55 GMT, "Instructor"
Post by Paul Revere
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 21:02:47 GMT, "Webzpider"
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Post by Paul Revere
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Post by Paul Revere
This is no longer the country founded by franklin
and jefferson and washington. Bush has turned it
into a nation of murder and torture and the biggest
terrorist nation in history. Any ideas? I was
thinking maybe Hilteria.
How about Israel?
Why not Moronia ?
How about, "The only nation willing to fight tyrrany"?
(besides UK)
you ninny.
Uma.
That's a joke. The USA has put more Tyrants in to power
than any other nation, and currently supports the worlds
biggest tyranny Israel to the tune of Billions of Dollars a
year.
debatable. remember the soviet union?
israel is a democracy , 1/6 of whom are non jews.
Any terrorist threat the US now faces is a
by-product/reaction to its past actions. American Troops to
day Killed 11 Iraqi policemen who were just doing their
jobs, that's how America makes enemies. Sad thing is
Americans just don't understand it.
the deaths today of those iraqis is tragic, and i wish it
never happened. however, it apears to have been an accident
and is definitely not typical of the relations with the
iraqi police.
Then the deaths aren't tragic at all, they're just stupid.
Who supported the IRA when they were bombing London?
Americans and your Government did nothing to stop the flow
of money.
the IRA should never be supported , i agree. always have.
but our gov't did not support the IRA.
Why don't we invade Ireland and kill their terrorists?
because they have not orchestrated terror actions or harbored WMD
against the USA.
Post by The Lone Weasel
They're white.
Why don't we invade North Korea? Because they have nukes.
b/c of the DMZ. b/c for 50 years+ we have completely isolated them
with s.korea right up its ass, & with 35,000+ US troops waving 'hi'
across the way.
Post by The Lone Weasel
Why don't we invade Iran? Just look what's happening in
enough of this idiocy.
Post by The Lone Weasel
Iraq! We don't need two idiotic desert guerrilla wars in
neighboring countries where one's already controlled by
religious fundamentalists and Iraq soon will be.
Just imagine the mischief they'll create when Iraq & Iran are
both run by Sheites. And Pakistan has nukes right next door.
they have for some time now.
Post by The Lone Weasel
Would you vote for the idiots who got us in this illegal
invasion desert guerrilla tag-team terrorist horseshit?
yup.
Post by The Lone Weasel
"There is one simple way for the United States to decrease
very significantly the amount of terror in the world, and
that is to just stop supporting and participating in it."
- Noam Chomsky
oh not him. no wonder you are so misled.
---
San Francisco Paul Revere
Paul
2003-09-17 06:50:17 UTC
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Post by PMD
How about Mongolia, ............darn it exists!
Why should that make any difference? Budweiser!
Barry Smith
2003-09-23 14:21:16 UTC
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Post by Paul
Post by PMD
How about Mongolia, ............darn it exists!
Why should that make any difference? Budweiser!
Georgia

Webzpider
2003-09-13 01:01:37 UTC
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This is no longer the country founded by franklin and jefferson and
washington. Bush has turned it into a nation of murder and torture
and the biggest terrorist nation in history. Any ideas? I was
thinking maybe Hilteria.
How about Israel?
Why not Moronia ?
Bradly Wiebe
2003-09-13 03:42:11 UTC
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Post by Webzpider
This is no longer the country founded by franklin and jefferson and
washington. Bush has turned it into a nation of murder and torture
and the biggest terrorist nation in history. Any ideas? I was
thinking maybe Hilteria.
How about Israel?
Why not Moronia ?
What about: the You Ass of A
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